About the Faith vs. Reason issue 3.
A few participants more:
aleshiaclarke says: Regardless of one’s faith, why not allow people to ask “what if?” Putting everyone’s ideas on the table does not impede science. The name for the professional term is “brainstorming.” I have no problem with empiricism, but I cannot condone intolerance by self-professing “experts.” Scientific breakthroughs have historically taken place using teamwork and the engineering method. By allowing everyone to bring something to the table, we become more open-minded and efficient. NASA is one organization that has been able to use this strategy quite successfully. Anyone out there who feels threatened by the establishment of scientists who spend the bulk of their time launching scathing attacks on those who dare disturb the status quo, take heart; the scientific community founders were philosophers that were labeled by society as lunatics.
(Also agree with your point. Many people should read it and think about it slowly. Thanks).
If it is irrelevant whether this or that scientist is a believer, then you shouldn’t have brought that up in the first place :P Also, no one, not even Dirac, is immune to being called irrational. Quite the opposite, we can only grow as scientists once we can point to the flaws in the previous generations. I’m not, however, saying we should in this specific case. It’s just a general injunction against “not daring to call someone irrational.” No one’s above criticism (and irrationality).
(Well, you can call irrational to anyone, but you should be able to argue it, and I can not do it with Dirac. Yep I brought christian scientists first, but more as sample that as argument)
Digressions aside, I do not think the peace of mind caused by faith you mentioned is either necessary or sufficient for the development of science. The fact remains that most true scientists do tend to live in awe of the universe we live in. Some frame that awe in a spiritual perspective; others do not. But it appears to me that what has truly moved most scientists is simply curiosity, the drive to challenge one’s own conceptions, and the will to find truth.
(I don’t say that peace of mind is necessary or sufficient, what I say is that faith has been there for thousand of years, is a fact, and the final results can be checked: here we are!. In short, I think that to despise about faith is the same as complaining of love, hatred, envy or desire to pee). :P
Well, I left some messages for answering, I’ll do my best… Maybe I can make a short entry on the subject, but it will be tomorrow, it’s getting late here.
Thanks to all participants, for or against my point of view, that’s irrelevant. The important thing is the discussion itself.
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